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 | | | Author: | pedalingman  | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 18:03 | | Subject: | New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 427 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 18:06 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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100% agree. that is a horrible thing that some sellers do
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| | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 18:12 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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100% agree. that is a horrible thing that some sellers do
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I thought about that before, stacking PAB parts is fine but selling them as new
is not.
In fact I think selling PAB as new at all is questionable, seeing as who knows
what the parts have been through with other customers before you even got there.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | RebelliousBrick | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 18:30 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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100% agree. that is a horrible thing that some sellers do
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I thought about that before, stacking PAB parts is fine but selling them as new
is not.
In fact I think selling PAB as new at all is questionable, seeing as who knows
what the parts have been through with other customers before you even got there.
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by that logic selling any parts as new is questionable because you dont know
what happens in the factories either
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 18:36 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, RebelliousBrick writes:
| | In Selling, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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100% agree. that is a horrible thing that some sellers do
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I thought about that before, stacking PAB parts is fine but selling them as new
is not.
In fact I think selling PAB as new at all is questionable, seeing as who knows
what the parts have been through with other customers before you even got there.
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by that logic selling any parts as new is questionable because you dont know
what happens in the factories either
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By that logic selling anything on BrickLink is questionable as we don't know
what the parts or sets or whatever has been through before it got to the seller's
hands and was listed for sale.
With all of that logic, it's becoming harder to find reputable sellers that
won't turn new parts into used parts when shipping them. There is no excuse
for doing this to a buyer and it is not logical by any means whatsoever.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 21:47 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, RebelliousBrick writes:
| | by that logic selling any parts as new is questionable because you dont know
what happens in the factories either
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Your logic doesn't follow. It is very unlikely that someone was playing
with them in the factory and then put them back where they'd need to be to
get packed into a set. There is a very reasonable chance that someone played
with them at PAB.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 11:04 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, RebelliousBrick writes:
| | by that logic selling any parts as new is questionable because you dont know
what happens in the factories either
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Your logic doesn't follow. It is very unlikely that someone was playing
with them in the factory and then put them back where they'd need to be to
get packed into a set. There is a very reasonable chance that someone played
with them at PAB.
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Thank you that is what I was refering to.
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| | | | | Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 18:10 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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Report the member though the BrickLink Help Center. They should not be doing
this.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 19:10 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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Why not express your disgruntlement with the relatively new seller, before hitting
them with their first non-positive feedback? Seems to be a 'classic teaching
moment' from an experienced vendor like yourself, whom I think they, perhaps
misguidedly, wanted to impress. Why else go to all that trouble?
I’ve also had a few newish vendors over the years, do just this for new parts.
Sure, my immediate reaction was pissed-off too. But then I’d start to ask myself,
why all the work? My conclusion was that it was a misconception (albeit grievous)
on their part, of how things are done. Still irked about such individual's
lack of empathy and consideration though, but...
Reach out and explain, negotiate compensation if you feel it's called for.
And in the doing, teach. Though nothing teaches like receiving your first negative
feedback that can always be done if they’re not receptive to learning how to
be a better, more understanding BL vendor
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| | | | | | | Author: | pedalingman | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 20:36 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I did go to the seller and he has chosen to ignore me for almost a week. Today
I posted the feedback and posted here. He had plenty of time to respond.
In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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Why not express your disgruntlement with the relatively new seller, before hitting
them with their first non-positive feedback? Seems to be a 'classic teaching
moment' from an experienced vendor like yourself, whom I think they, perhaps
misguidedly, wanted to impress. Why else go to all that trouble?
I’ve also had a few newish vendors over the years, do just this for new parts.
Sure, my immediate reaction was pissed-off too. But then I’d start to ask myself,
why all the work? My conclusion was that it was a misconception (albeit grievous)
on their part, of how things are done. Still irked about such individual's
lack of empathy and consideration though, but...
Reach out and explain, negotiate compensation if you feel it's called for.
And in the doing, teach. Though nothing teaches like receiving your first negative
feedback that can always be done if they’re not receptive to learning how to
be a better, more understanding BL vendor
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 20:50 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | I did go to the seller and he has chosen to ignore me for almost a week. Today
I posted the feedback and posted here. He had plenty of time to respond.
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We think alike, then. Good that you did your diligence as the experienced vendor.
Guess "they’re not receptive to learning how to be a better, more understanding
BL vendor" after all.
-popsicle
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In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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Why not express your disgruntlement with the relatively new seller, before hitting
them with their first non-positive feedback? Seems to be a 'classic teaching
moment' from an experienced vendor like yourself, whom I think they, perhaps
misguidedly, wanted to impress. Why else go to all that trouble?
I’ve also had a few newish vendors over the years, do just this for new parts.
Sure, my immediate reaction was pissed-off too. But then I’d start to ask myself,
why all the work? My conclusion was that it was a misconception (albeit grievous)
on their part, of how things are done. Still irked about such individual's
lack of empathy and consideration though, but...
Reach out and explain, negotiate compensation if you feel it's called for.
And in the doing, teach. Though nothing teaches like receiving your first negative
feedback that can always be done if they’re not receptive to learning how to
be a better, more understanding BL vendor
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 22:31 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | I did go to the seller and he has chosen to ignore me for almost a week. Today
I posted the feedback and posted here. He had plenty of time to respond.
In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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Why not express your disgruntlement with the relatively new seller, before hitting
them with their first non-positive feedback? Seems to be a 'classic teaching
moment' from an experienced vendor like yourself, whom I think they, perhaps
misguidedly, wanted to impress. Why else go to all that trouble?
I’ve also had a few newish vendors over the years, do just this for new parts.
Sure, my immediate reaction was pissed-off too. But then I’d start to ask myself,
why all the work? My conclusion was that it was a misconception (albeit grievous)
on their part, of how things are done. Still irked about such individual's
lack of empathy and consideration though, but...
Reach out and explain, negotiate compensation if you feel it's called for.
And in the doing, teach. Though nothing teaches like receiving your first negative
feedback that can always be done if they’re not receptive to learning how to
be a better, more understanding BL vendor
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It's really good to see that you first contacted the seller and then gave
them a week to respond. IF they choose not to get back to you and explain or
at least give an apology, then they deservedly opened themselves up to the negative
feedback.
Jim
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| | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 19:10 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 90 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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if they weren't stacked like that the potential for them getting scratched
increases.
how are they "now Used"...? they are loose bricks, yes, but how does
stacking them cause them to be "used"...
would they not be used if they weren't stacked together?
guess everyone needs somethnig to complain about..
thansk for the head's up about how you leave "Instant Negative Feedback"...
good to know
every single brick needs to be bubble wrapped seperately apparently..
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| | | | | | | Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 19:17 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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if they weren't stacked like that the potential for them getting scratched
increases.
how are they "now Used"...? they are loose bricks, yes, but how does
stacking them cause them to be "used"...
would they not be used if they weren't stacked together?
guess everyone needs somethnig to complain about..
thansk for the head's up about how you leave "Instant Negative Feedback"...
good to know
every single brick needs to be bubble wrapped seperately apparently..
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Bricks stacked like in the photo are not new because the studs are connected.
New bricks should not be stacked like this, as it turns them into Used bricks.
They are not loose bricks, how are you not seeing this? The recipient would have
to pull every plate apart from the stack it's in. That is a lot of work,
and because of the clutch power of LEGO elements, this makes all of these plates
now Used plates.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 20:20 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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if they weren't stacked like that the potential for them getting scratched
increases.
how are they "now Used"...? they are loose bricks, yes, but how does
stacking them cause them to be "used"...
would they not be used if they weren't stacked together?
guess everyone needs somethnig to complain about..
thansk for the head's up about how you leave "Instant Negative Feedback"...
good to know
every single brick needs to be bubble wrapped seperately apparently..
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Simple, The seller built a tall 4x4 tower out of plates. He USED them to do so.
So they are Used. I would complain too if I had to separate all those plates.
Greater chance of damage doing so compared to shipping unstacked plates. The
buyer has a 100% valid complaint.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 10:36 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, edk writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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if they weren't stacked like that the potential for them getting scratched
increases.
how are they "now Used"...? they are loose bricks, yes, but how does
stacking them cause them to be "used"...
would they not be used if they weren't stacked together?
guess everyone needs somethnig to complain about..
thansk for the head's up about how you leave "Instant Negative Feedback"...
good to know
every single brick needs to be bubble wrapped seperately apparently..
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Simple, The seller built a tall 4x4 tower out of plates. He USED them to do so.
So they are Used. I would complain too if I had to separate all those plates.
Greater chance of damage doing so compared to shipping unstacked plates. The
buyer has a 100% valid complaint.
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when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
so this sealed polybag mini-figure right here is USED because it is already assembled...
either by human or robot.. something used the parts to create the figure.
just like you are claiming the seller 'Used' the plates to create a "tower"...
-- https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=198575-1&name=Fabuland%20Figure%20Horse%202%20-%20Orzoro%20Nestl%C3%A9%20Promotional%20polybag&category=%5BFabuland%5D%5BPromotional%5D#T=S&O={%22iconly%22:0}
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 10:49 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, edk writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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if they weren't stacked like that the potential for them getting scratched
increases.
how are they "now Used"...? they are loose bricks, yes, but how does
stacking them cause them to be "used"...
would they not be used if they weren't stacked together?
guess everyone needs somethnig to complain about..
thansk for the head's up about how you leave "Instant Negative Feedback"...
good to know
every single brick needs to be bubble wrapped seperately apparently..
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Simple, The seller built a tall 4x4 tower out of plates. He USED them to do so.
So they are Used. I would complain too if I had to separate all those plates.
Greater chance of damage doing so compared to shipping unstacked plates. The
buyer has a 100% valid complaint.
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when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
so this sealed polybag mini-figure right here is USED because it is already assembled...
either by human or robot.. something used the parts to create the figure.
just like you are claiming the seller 'Used' the plates to create a "tower"...
-- https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=198575-1&name=Fabuland%20Figure%20Horse%202%20-%20Orzoro%20Nestl%C3%A9%20Promotional%20polybag&category=%5BFabuland%5D%5BPromotional%5D#T=S&O={%22iconly%22:0}
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here is a 2nd example just in case ....
-https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?id=172792#T=S&O={%22iconly%22:0}
the figure is sealed in a plastic bubble attached to the book, & is already assembled.
it is now Deemed USED..
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 10:57 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
Again, you just aren't right.
You can read the link below to see what is and isn't "deemed used".
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, edk writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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if they weren't stacked like that the potential for them getting scratched
increases.
how are they "now Used"...? they are loose bricks, yes, but how does
stacking them cause them to be "used"...
would they not be used if they weren't stacked together?
guess everyone needs somethnig to complain about..
thansk for the head's up about how you leave "Instant Negative Feedback"...
good to know
every single brick needs to be bubble wrapped seperately apparently..
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Simple, The seller built a tall 4x4 tower out of plates. He USED them to do so.
So they are Used. I would complain too if I had to separate all those plates.
Greater chance of damage doing so compared to shipping unstacked plates. The
buyer has a 100% valid complaint.
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when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
so this sealed polybag mini-figure right here is USED because it is already assembled...
either by human or robot.. something used the parts to create the figure.
just like you are claiming the seller 'Used' the plates to create a "tower"...
-- https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=198575-1&name=Fabuland%20Figure%20Horse%202%20-%20Orzoro%20Nestl%C3%A9%20Promotional%20polybag&category=%5BFabuland%5D%5BPromotional%5D#T=S&O={%22iconly%22:0}
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here is a 2nd example just in case ....
-https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?id=172792#T=S&O={%22iconly%22:0}
the figure is sealed in a plastic bubble attached to the book, & is already assembled.
it is now Deemed USED..
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The BrickLink definitions begin after items leave a factory, a LEGO store, etc.,
not before.
Thus, if items arrive from a factory assembled, they are still considered new
because they have not been used or handled for anything other than sorting purposes.
If items arrive from a factory unassembled, then that is the condition considered
as new and assembling the parts would be _more_than_ handled for anything other
than sorting purposes.
It is rather simple to understand if you read the rules of the road:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
Now I won't say that I agree with the rule about assembled minifigures still
being new when they originally come unassembled, but that is not what is being
discussed here. What is being discussed are parts, and the rules on those are
_very_ clear.
The parts in this thread are used according to BrickLink definitions, and that
is all that matters on BrinkLink. It has nothing to do with anyone's opinions
of the situation or what happens on other sites, etc., because BrickLink will
side with the buyer here.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 10:52 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
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The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
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It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 11:04 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
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The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
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It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
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when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 11:10 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| What about building a minifig in a new unopened polybag?
In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
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The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
|
It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
|
when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 11:19 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | What about building a minifig in a new unopened polybag?
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ahhh the fun starts..
well according to Axaday's helpful link to item conditions..
you can detach & reattach arms & hands to a new torso 150,000 times & still sell
them individually as 'new'.....
so ok... sure....
if this was such a big deal for this buyer.. why not just return to sender &
get a full refund...
obviously it wasn't a problem....
this "instant negative feedback" scenario is ridiculous.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 11:32 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | well according to Axaday's helpful link to item conditions..
you can detach & reattach arms & hands to a new torso 150,000 times & still sell
them individually as 'new'.....
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1) You didn't read it.
2) You didn't understand it.
or 3) You are lying.
| | if this was such a big deal for this buyer.. why not just return to sender &
get a full refund...
obviously it wasn't a problem....
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Obviously it WAS a problem. Thus the forum post and the negative feedback and
the "I did go to the seller and he has chosen to ignore me for almost a week.
Today
I posted the feedback and posted here. He had plenty of time to respond."
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | pedalingman | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 13:49 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | if this was such a big deal for this buyer.. why not just return to sender &
get a full refund...
obviously it wasn't a problem....
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Yes, it was a problem. I am on a deadline and needed these parts. No time to
return and order alternatives. I have since separated them (waste of my time)
and am working on completing the project that is due Monday (timeline got moved
up). I tried to educate the seller but he has chosen to ignore me, hence the
feedback and forum post.
In the last 6 months I have spent more than $8K on parts via Bricklink. I always
try to give new sellers a shot if their prices are good but those days are probably
numbered. I will definitely go to my proven sellers first from now on. So before
insinuating that "it wasn't a problem" maybe ask a question and get
the full story.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:11 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | | | if this was such a big deal for this buyer.. why not just return to sender &
get a full refund...
obviously it wasn't a problem....
|
Yes, it was a problem. I am on a deadline and needed these parts. No time to
return and order alternatives. I have since separated them (waste of my time)
and am working on completing the project that is due Monday (timeline got moved
up). I tried to educate the seller but he has chosen to ignore me, hence the
feedback and forum post.
In the last 6 months I have spent more than $8K on parts via Bricklink. I always
try to give new sellers a shot if their prices are good but those days are probably
numbered. I will definitely go to my proven sellers first from now on. So before
insinuating that "it wasn't a problem" maybe ask a question and get
the full story.
|
oh ok..
now that you have displayed the full story..
it's not about them being "used"..
it's about having to "waste your time because you are on a deadline"
gotcha
thanks for the info dump
you said them being USED was grounds for you to post "instant Negative Feedback".
your fairy tale bud.. not mine.
but thanks for clarifying it was about your time deadline.. not the bricks being
"USED"
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:18 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | | | if this was such a big deal for this buyer.. why not just return to sender &
get a full refund...
obviously it wasn't a problem....
|
Yes, it was a problem. I am on a deadline and needed these parts. No time to
return and order alternatives. I have since separated them (waste of my time)
and am working on completing the project that is due Monday (timeline got moved
up). I tried to educate the seller but he has chosen to ignore me, hence the
feedback and forum post.
In the last 6 months I have spent more than $8K on parts via Bricklink. I always
try to give new sellers a shot if their prices are good but those days are probably
numbered. I will definitely go to my proven sellers first from now on. So before
insinuating that "it wasn't a problem" maybe ask a question and get
the full story.
|
oh ok..
now that you have displayed the full story..
it's not about them being "used"..
it's about having to "waste your time because you are on a deadline"
gotcha
thanks for the info dump
you said them being USED was grounds for you to post "instant Negative Feedback".
your fairy tale bud.. not mine.
but thanks for clarifying it was about your time deadline.. not the bricks being
"USED"
|
I’ve got a wild concept you might be interested in. It’s called having more then
just 1 reason for being unhappy with the order…
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | | | if this was such a big deal for this buyer.. why not just return to sender &
get a full refund...
obviously it wasn't a problem....
|
Yes, it was a problem. I am on a deadline and needed these parts. No time to
return and order alternatives. I have since separated them (waste of my time)
and am working on completing the project that is due Monday (timeline got moved
up). I tried to educate the seller but he has chosen to ignore me, hence the
feedback and forum post.
In the last 6 months I have spent more than $8K on parts via Bricklink. I always
try to give new sellers a shot if their prices are good but those days are probably
numbered. I will definitely go to my proven sellers first from now on. So before
insinuating that "it wasn't a problem" maybe ask a question and get
the full story.
|
oh ok..
now that you have displayed the full story..
it's not about them being "used"..
it's about having to "waste your time because you are on a deadline"
gotcha
thanks for the info dump
you said them being USED was grounds for you to post "instant Negative Feedback".
your fairy tale bud.. not mine.
but thanks for clarifying it was about your time deadline.. not the bricks being
"USED"
|
I’ve got a wild concept you might be interested in. It’s called having more then
just 1 reason for being unhappy with the order…
|
Hence why he gave both reasons in his original message
“ extremely hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used.”
Where he was unhappy because
Reason 1 it’s hard to separate (aka a waste of time)
Reason 2 the parts are now used and not new
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 16:49 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | | | if this was such a big deal for this buyer.. why not just return to sender &
get a full refund...
obviously it wasn't a problem....
|
Yes, it was a problem. I am on a deadline and needed these parts. No time to
return and order alternatives. I have since separated them (waste of my time)
and am working on completing the project that is due Monday (timeline got moved
up). I tried to educate the seller but he has chosen to ignore me, hence the
feedback and forum post.
In the last 6 months I have spent more than $8K on parts via Bricklink. I always
try to give new sellers a shot if their prices are good but those days are probably
numbered. I will definitely go to my proven sellers first from now on. So before
insinuating that "it wasn't a problem" maybe ask a question and get
the full story.
|
oh ok..
now that you have displayed the full story..
it's not about them being "used"..
it's about having to "waste your time because you are on a deadline"
gotcha
thanks for the info dump
you said them being USED was grounds for you to post "instant Negative Feedback".
your fairy tale bud.. not mine.
but thanks for clarifying it was about your time deadline.. not the bricks being
"USED"
|
I’ve got a wild concept you might be interested in. It’s called having more then
just 1 reason for being unhappy with the order…
|
Hence why he gave both reasons in his original message
“ extremely hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used.”
Where he was unhappy because
Reason 1 it’s hard to separate (aka a waste of time)
Reason 2 the parts are now used and not new
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(mind blown)
It's pizza time. 🍕
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 17:45 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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pizza!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 16:50 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
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| | Hence why he gave both reasons in his original message
“ extremely hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used.”
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| | Where he was unhappy because
Reason 1 it’s hard to separate (aka a waste of time)
Reason 2 the parts are now used and not new
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Especially while BL Help/Terms say:
New Parts - Parts are brand new, [snip] and have been handled only for sorting.
These parts have never been used in any manner. If a minifigure or part assembly
was originally sold assembled by the LEGO Group, its component parts after disassembly
can also be listed as new.
I wonder what PlanetEarthToys can't comprehend.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 17:19 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
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| | Hence why he gave both reasons in his original message
“ extremely hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used.”
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| | Where he was unhappy because
Reason 1 it’s hard to separate (aka a waste of time)
Reason 2 the parts are now used and not new
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Especially while BL Help/Terms say:
New Parts - Parts are brand new, [snip] and have been handled only for sorting.
These parts have never been used in any manner. If a minifigure or part assembly
was originally sold assembled by the LEGO Group, its component parts after disassembly
can also be listed as new.
I wonder what PlanetEarthToys can't comprehend.
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https://wallethub.com/edu/e/most-educated-states/31075
And, yes, I know what it says about Ohio, but I received all my education in
Florida.
GO GATORS!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 17:20 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | I wonder what PlanetEarthToys can't comprehend.
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He does, he is just intentionally riling people up again.
Niek.
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| In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | I wonder what PlanetEarthToys can't comprehend.
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He does, he is just intentionally riling people up again.
Niek.
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+1 at this point based on how often this happens I cant think of any other reason
then purely for the point of taking a position that no one else agrees on for
some personal entertainment or such
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Carissamiss | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 19:11 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| +1 and I wish that super awesome BL comic guy would make one about this thread
so when things cool down, there will be one to lighten the argument. I don’t
know who makes them but I find them clever. PlanetEarthToys has starred in a
few!
In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | I wonder what PlanetEarthToys can't comprehend.
|
He does, he is just intentionally riling people up again.
Niek.
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+1 at this point based on how often this happens I cant think of any other reason
then purely for the point of taking a position that no one else agrees on for
some personal entertainment or such
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| In Selling, Carissamiss writes:
| | +1 and I wish that super awesome BL comic guy would make one about this thread
so when things cool down, there will be one to lighten the argument. I don’t
know who makes them but I find them clever. PlanetEarthToys has starred in a
few!
In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | I wonder what PlanetEarthToys can't comprehend.
|
He does, he is just intentionally riling people up again.
Niek.
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+1 at this point based on how often this happens I cant think of any other reason
then purely for the point of taking a position that no one else agrees on for
some personal entertainment or such
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 20:15 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | I wonder what PlanetEarthToys can't comprehend.
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He does, he is just intentionally riling people up again.
Niek.
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Too true, but maybe he’s just having a bad day, give him the benefit of the doubt
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| In Selling, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | I wonder what PlanetEarthToys can't comprehend.
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He does, he is just intentionally riling people up again.
Niek.
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Too true, but maybe he’s just having a bad day, give him the benefit of the doubt
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I saw it coming since he joined late last year. I knew right off the bat he was
toxic but that's common knowledge now I suppose.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 11:20 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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The problem we are facing, best I can tell, is that you can write, but cannot
read.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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The problem we are facing, best I can tell, is that you can write, but cannot
read.
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Sellers discretion mixed with a dose of common sense would go a long way here
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 12:33 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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The problem we are facing, best I can tell, is that you can write, but cannot
read.
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"It's like....the definitely of used. "
- Axaday
i do not care about this.. just fun watching you all squirm around...
OP said he leaves "Instant Negative Feedback"
waiting a week is not 'instant'
so go talk to the OP... he said it..
sorry i left for a moment, had real-life things to do..
sitting around on the forum all day long is your all's "job"..
i live in the real world
have fun
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:49 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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The problem we are facing, best I can tell, is that you can write, but cannot
read.
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"It's like....the definitely of used. "
- Axaday
i do not care about this.. just fun watching you all squirm around...
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Funny how trolls on the webs always lead with "I don't care."
You obviously do care, because you keep replying and decided it was worth your
time to give us your amazing insight in the first place.
| | OP said he leaves "Instant Negative Feedback"
waiting a week is not 'instant'
so go talk to the OP... he said it..
sorry i left for a moment, had real-life things to do..
sitting around on the forum all day long is your all's "job"..
i live in the real world
have fun
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Ah, the revelatory insults of one who has lost an argument. Don't forget
your ball.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 11:26 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 11:54 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 90 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
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The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
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It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
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when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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I have a feeling you have a very hard time admitting you are wrong, correct?
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Not an uncommon personality trait among us forum regulars, it seems Btw, when
was the last time you did so, Randy?
Sound advise, reading is most always advisable. With that in mind, here's
another help page link covering forum rules (section #4) worth a read
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
Personally, think it's silly. But if we're pointing to help pages, well
Unless I'm wrong
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
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The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
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It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
|
when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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I have a feeling you have a very hard time admitting you are wrong, correct?
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Not an uncommon personality trait among us forum regulars, it seems Btw, when
was the last time you did so, Randy?
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When I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and as a parent, it's something
I have tried to teach my boys as well.
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Sound advise, reading is most always advisable. With that in mind, here's
another help page link covering forum rules (section #4) worth a read
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
Personally, think it's silly. But if we're pointing to help pages, well
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Yeah, well, sometimes things get the best of me, too. I am sorry for breaking
the forum rules. See, not hard. Shall I cancel my post and re-up it without the
acronym?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 12:07 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
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The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
|
It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
|
when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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I have a feeling you have a very hard time admitting you are wrong, correct?
|
Not an uncommon personality trait among us forum regulars, it seems Btw, when
was the last time you did so, Randy?
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When I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and as a parent, it's something
I have tried to teach my boys as well.
| |
Sound advise, reading is most always advisable. With that in mind, here's
another help page link covering forum rules (section #4) worth a read
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
Personally, think it's silly. But if we're pointing to help pages, well
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Yeah, well, sometimes things get the best of me, too. I am sorry for breaking
the forum rules. See, not hard. Shall I cancel my post and re-up it without the
acronym?
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I just canceled my original post, so now your post is the only one that has the
acronym still in it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 12:52 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | CLBoyce | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:11 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Did you not go back and read what he wrote..? Its still visible if you know where
to look. It really wasn't that bad IMO (I'm not in a place to excuse
it, but if it were directed at me I certainly wouldn't have been offended).
I think you might be blowing this up just a bit.
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| In Selling, CLBoyce writes:
| | Did you not go back and read what he wrote..? Its still visible if you know where
to look. It really wasn't that bad IMO (I'm not in a place to excuse
it, but if it were directed at me I certainly wouldn't have been offended).
I think you might be blowing this up just a bit.
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i don't know what he said or where it is hiding currently.. in the previous
message feeds it says "redacted" & his posts have been 'cancelled'..
so go right ahead & point it out...
regardless of anything that occurs from this point forward, TLG is handling it.
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| from what I can see he was simply suggesting that you should "read the darn
manual". He was just hoping to help you get some clarification regarding
a point you were arguing. No malice, probably just a little frustration. (these
are all my own opinions, I do not speak for Randy)
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| In Selling, CLBoyce writes:
| | from what I can see he was simply suggesting that you should "read the darn
manual". He was just hoping to help you get some clarification regarding
a point you were arguing. No malice, probably just a little frustration. (these
are all my own opinions, I do not speak for Randy)
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looks like this entire thread is getting cancelled out to hide everything..
so whatever..
i trust TLG to handle it
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, CLBoyce writes:
| | from what I can see he was simply suggesting that you should "read the darn
manual". He was just hoping to help you get some clarification regarding
a point you were arguing. No malice, probably just a little frustration. (these
are all my own opinions, I do not speak for Randy)
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looks like this entire thread is getting cancelled out to hide everything..
so whatever..
i trust TLG to handle it
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Everything that is said in the Forum, whether it gets canceled or not, is subject
to review at a later point. Canceling does not delete - it simply hides the comments
from public view.
By TLG, I'm assuming you mean LEGO CSE (Consumer and Shopper Engagement)
or the BrickLink Help Desk, which are now one and the same. When you file such
a report, it means everything has to get scrutinized - all the locked or hidden
threads, people's history in the Forum, and any type of action taken by the
site (banning, suspending, warnings, etc.) in relation to the accounts involved.
Under normal circumstances, we have a very lenient policy when it comes to Forum
discipline. However, when facing increased scrutiny, we may be advised to take
much more severe measures - and you may be surprised at the direction taken.
I am going to lock this thread to prevent more colateral damage.
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| In Selling, CLBoyce writes:
| | from what I can see he was simply suggesting that you should "read the darn
manual". He was just hoping to help you get some clarification regarding
a point you were arguing. No malice, probably just a little frustration. (these
are all my own opinions, I do not speak for Randy)
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Cooler heads do seem able to prevail, and yours must be cool.
Since I seem to have caused such a brouhaha with an acronym, I would like to
publicly apologize to all for the fallout from it due to my ability to police
my own behavior when called out on it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | CLBoyce | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 17:09 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 17:29 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, CLBoyce writes:
| | from what I can see he was simply suggesting that you should "read the darn
manual". He was just hoping to help you get some clarification regarding
a point you were arguing. No malice, probably just a little frustration. (these
are all my own opinions, I do not speak for Randy)
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Cooler heads do seem able to prevail, and yours must be cool.
Since I seem to have caused such a brouhaha with an acronym, I would like to
publicly apologize to all for the fallout from it due to my ability to police
my own behavior when called out on it.
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*crosses fingers and hopes randyf does NOT get fired.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, CLBoyce writes:
| | from what I can see he was simply suggesting that you should "read the darn
manual". He was just hoping to help you get some clarification regarding
a point you were arguing. No malice, probably just a little frustration. (these
are all my own opinions, I do not speak for Randy)
|
Cooler heads do seem able to prevail, and yours must be cool.
Since I seem to have caused such a brouhaha with an acronym, I would like to
publicly apologize to all for the fallout from it due to my ability to police
my own behavior when called out on it.
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*crosses fingers and hopes randyf does NOT get fired.
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here's a good luck charm! 🍕
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 20:11 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, CLBoyce writes:
| | from what I can see he was simply suggesting that you should "read the darn
manual". He was just hoping to help you get some clarification regarding
a point you were arguing. No malice, probably just a little frustration. (these
are all my own opinions, I do not speak for Randy)
|
Cooler heads do seem able to prevail, and yours must be cool.
Since I seem to have caused such a brouhaha with an acronym, I would like to
publicly apologize to all for the fallout from it due to my ability to police
my own behavior when called out on it.
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Thank you for that as leadership you have the larger load of setting the example
for us thank you
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 16:48 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, CLBoyce writes:
| | Did you not go back and read what he wrote..? Its still visible if you know where
to look. It really wasn't that bad IMO (I'm not in a place to excuse
it, but if it were directed at me I certainly wouldn't have been offended).
I think you might be blowing this up just a bit.
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i don't know what he said or where it is hiding currently.. in the previous
message feeds it says "redacted" & his posts have been 'cancelled'..
so go right ahead & point it out...
regardless of anything that occurs from this point forward, TLG is handling it.
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They aren't handling anything. I did. I redacted the acronym that I had written
in my response to Cory so my post and his would still be readable if our two
original posts were to be cancelled by a moderator.
And then I cancelled my own post that originally had it so that Cory would sleep
better tonight.
But if you _really_ must know, I basically insinuated to "read the manual".
Although, you obviously don't care about any of this so I don't know
why I am bothering.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
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The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
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It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
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when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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I have a feeling you have a very hard time admitting you are wrong, correct?
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Not an uncommon personality trait among us forum regulars, it seems Btw, when
was the last time you did so, Randy?
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When I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and as a parent, it's something
I have tried to teach my boys as well.
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Sound advise, reading is most always advisable. With that in mind, here's
another help page link covering forum rules (section #4) worth a read
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
Personally, think it's silly. But if we're pointing to help pages, well
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Yeah, well, sometimes things get the best of me, too. I am sorry for breaking
the forum rules. See, not hard. Shall I cancel my post and re-up it without the
acronym?
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I just canceled my original post, so now your post is the only one that has the
acronym still in it.
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enjoy the show.... RANDY
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 12:14 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
|
The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
|
It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
|
when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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I have a feeling you have a very hard time admitting you are wrong, correct?
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Not an uncommon personality trait among us forum regulars, it seems Btw, when
was the last time you did so, Randy?
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When I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and as a parent, it's something
I have tried to teach my boys as well.
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On that note about city no limits, I noticed that part
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImagePendingApproval.page?itemYear=-1&q=973pb5811c01&catType=-&sortBy=N&sortOrder=A
Which is pending happens to have NoFace on the back, can that be noted in the
item name?
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Sound advise, reading is most always advisable. With that in mind, here's
another help page link covering forum rules (section #4) worth a read
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
Personally, think it's silly. But if we're pointing to help pages, well
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Yeah, well, sometimes things get the best of me, too. I am sorry for breaking
the forum rules. See, not hard. Shall I cancel my post and re-up it without the
acronym?
| | Unless I'm wrong
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 12:14 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
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Yeah, well, sometimes things get the best of me, too. I am sorry for breaking
the forum rules. See, not hard. Shall I cancel my post and re-up it without the
acronym?
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That acronym has several bowdlerized expansions that are not as far-fetched and
straw-grasping justifications some people use for another well-known acronym.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
|
The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
|
It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
|
when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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I have a feeling you have a very hard time admitting you are wrong, correct?
|
Not an uncommon personality trait among us forum regulars, it seems Btw, when
was the last time you did so, Randy?
|
When I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and as a parent, it's something
I have tried to teach my boys as well.
|
Having children does have an amazing humbling effect, in moving a good amount
of one's pride over to them. You've always sounded like a good father
to me. I knew another good father named Randy, my brother.
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Sound advise, reading is most always advisable. With that in mind, here's
another help page link covering forum rules (section #4) worth a read
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
Personally, think it's silly. But if we're pointing to help pages, well
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Yeah, well, sometimes things get the best of me, too. I am sorry for breaking
the forum rules. See, not hard. Shall I cancel my post and re-up it without the
acronym?
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Read again my opening line "Personally, think it's silly"
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 12:36 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
|
The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
|
It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
|
when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
|
I have a feeling you have a very hard time admitting you are wrong, correct?
|
Not an uncommon personality trait among us forum regulars, it seems Btw, when
was the last time you did so, Randy?
|
When I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and as a parent, it's something
I have tried to teach my boys as well.
|
Having children does have an amazing humbling effect, in moving a good amount
of one's pride over to them. You've always sounded like a good father
to me. I knew another good father named Randy, my brother.
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| |
Sound advise, reading is most always advisable. With that in mind, here's
another help page link covering forum rules (section #4) worth a read
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
Personally, think it's silly. But if we're pointing to help pages, well
|
Yeah, well, sometimes things get the best of me, too. I am sorry for breaking
the forum rules. See, not hard. Shall I cancel my post and re-up it without the
acronym?
|
Read again my opening line "Personally, think it's silly"
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:50 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
|
The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
|
It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
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when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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I have a feeling you have a very hard time admitting you are wrong, correct?
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Not an uncommon personality trait among us forum regulars, it seems Btw, when
was the last time you did so, Randy?
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When I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and as a parent, it's something
I have tried to teach my boys as well.
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Having children does have an amazing humbling effect, in moving a good amount
of one's pride over to them. You've always sounded like a good father
to me. I knew another good father named Randy, my brother.
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Sound advise, reading is most always advisable. With that in mind, here's
another help page link covering forum rules (section #4) worth a read
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
Personally, think it's silly. But if we're pointing to help pages, well
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Yeah, well, sometimes things get the best of me, too. I am sorry for breaking
the forum rules. See, not hard. Shall I cancel my post and re-up it without the
acronym?
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Read again my opening line "Personally, think it's silly"
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 20:45 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, popsicle writes:
| | In Selling, randyf writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
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The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
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It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
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when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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I have a feeling you have a very hard time admitting you are wrong, correct?
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Not an uncommon personality trait among us forum regulars, it seems Btw, when
was the last time you did so, Randy?
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When I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it, and as a parent, it's something
I have tried to teach my boys as well.
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Having children does have an amazing humbling effect, in moving a good amount
of one's pride over to them. You've always sounded like a good father
to me. I knew another good father named Randy, my brother.
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Sound advise, reading is most always advisable. With that in mind, here's
another help page link covering forum rules (section #4) worth a read
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
Personally, think it's silly. But if we're pointing to help pages, well
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Yeah, well, sometimes things get the best of me, too. I am sorry for breaking
the forum rules. See, not hard. Shall I cancel my post and re-up it without the
acronym?
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Read again my opening line "Personally, think it's silly"
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Is that the grass that trees grow in?
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Not this again!
You said trees don’t grow in grass!
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1429428
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 16:14 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, axaday writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | when you buy a brand new mini-figure (either polybagged by itself or in a set)...
is it pre-assembled?
or are the hands, legs, torso, head all seperate ?
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The hands and arms and legs are molded separately so that they are posable, but
are not designed to be taken apart and put back together. They take very significant
damage from the first time they are disconnected. It isn't part of the play
pattern. LEGO assembles them because that is how the complete part is intended.
| | if everything is seperate & the buyer has to 'assemble' it, ok cool..
you are right
but, if the mini-figure is 'assembled' already inside the sealed polybag,
then it is 'USED' by your standards.
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It isn't the standards of the person you are talking to. Bricklink has written
policies that sellers are to follow and this seller didn't. The only exception
given by Bricklink is for minifigs and only because LEGO assembles some minifigs
from the factory. If it were up to me, only THOSE minifigs would be allowed
to be sold new assembled, but probably just for a simpler standard they opted
that it can be assembled once and not disassembled and be new because then it
is in a condition matching the ones LEGO assembles.
I'm reluctant to even engage with this. A Fabuland figure is for a small
child. The heads and arms are detachable, but again only because they wouldn't
be posable if molded as one piece and a small child would not be able to put
the head on. Assembling the figure is not an intended play pattern for Fabuland.
The case is totally different for plates. The design of the toy is to assemble
in flexible ways. It is possible and encouraged to reuse the element time and
time again, but every time it flexes a little and has a little less clutch and
accumulates scratches from handling. Many customers want an element to build
a model one time and never disassemble it. They want a piece with mint condition
clutch. Bricklink sets policies to offer these customers assurance that they'll
get that. This isn't just someone's opinion against someone else's.
Bricklink has a policy and sellers are required to follow it.
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when you purchase a mini-fugre that is NOT assembled already in the polybag..
legs, head, torso, accessories are all sperate, loose in the poly.
are the arms & hands already attached to the Torso...?
or does the buyer have to assemble the arms & hands , attaching them to the Torso...?
from what i can see, Torso's come Pre-Asembed sealed in the polybag...
something assembled them to create the torso w/ arms & hands attached already.
arms, hands, torso are all individual parts.
how about legs, ..
hips, left leg & right leg are all individual parts & come 'assembled'
in the poly..
what has occured here is sealed polybag mini-figure torso's & legs are now
deemed USED parts regardless of if they are sealed in poly or not..
good job geniuses
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As brought out already the issue is with parts and not minifigures. BrickLink's
rules are different for each one and you know this so why do you keep bringing
up minifigs being assembled before being shipped from Lego to defend your point
of view when minifigs have absolutely nothing to do with the original issue?
Jim
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 21:48 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | if they weren't stacked like that the potential for them getting scratched
increases.
how are they "now Used"...? they are loose bricks, yes, but how does
stacking them cause them to be "used"...
would they not be used if they weren't stacked together?
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It's like....the definitely of used. Whatever would have happened to the
piece if someone had built a set with it happened to it when they got stacked.
But it is probably worse. Those are going to be hard to take apart.
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| | | | | | | Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:17 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| This is a ridiculous argument.
No one needs to stack parts to ensure that no scratching happens in shipping.
Even Lego doesn't do that, and everyone agrees that parts directly out of
sets are "new".
There is no good reason for anyone to stack new bricks to ship them, and multiple
good reasons for leaving them loose.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:23 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, calebfishn writes:
| | This is a ridiculous argument.
No one needs to stack parts to ensure that no scratching happens in shipping.
Even Lego doesn't do that, and everyone agrees that parts directly out of
sets are "new".
There is no good reason for anyone to stack new bricks to ship them, and multiple
good reasons for leaving them loose.
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no one said that..
i said shipping them loose might cause them to get scratched , especially new
bricks..
but on the other hand...minifigure parts are 'stacked"... to create the
figure
anyways, OP just admitted he was mad he had to "waste his time seperating
them" because he is on a time deadline that got moved up on him.. not about
them being "USED" because they were stacked.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | anyways, OP just admitted he was mad he had to "waste his time seperating
them" because he is on a time deadline that got moved up on him.. not about
them being "USED" because they were stacked.
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The op stated both reasons not just the one…
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | pedalingman | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 14:45 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | anyways, OP just admitted he was mad he had to "waste his time seperating
them" because he is on a time deadline that got moved up on him.. not about
them being "USED" because they were stacked.
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I've been around here for more than 20 years and have seen thousands of people
come and go. Big stores and little stores fail all the time. Bottom line is....
Offer quality product - it is what you say it is
Have timely processing and delivery
Provide quality service
Own your mistakes (I've made plenty)
Offer competitive prices
Failure to provide one or more of these things will ultimately be your downfall
as a seller. This store failed. Maybe they learned something....time will tell.
PS. You didn't have to block me from your store. Based on your responses,
I would have never purchased from you.
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| | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 20:47 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
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Those plates are now used. You didn't get what you ordered. Send them back
for a refund.
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| | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 21:37 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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This is like a horror movie.
Since the seller does not answer, I would file a claim with Paypal and return
the order, even though i wiuld have to pay for return shipping.
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| | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 22:38 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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Sometimes both new sets and PAB parts come that way though. I just mention it
in the listing because I don't want to run the risk of doing any damage myself
by prying them apart.
https://store.bricklink.com/Ziegelmeister?sID=2332882&itemID=416899318#/shop?o={%22invID%22:%22416899318%22}
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| | | | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2024 22:45 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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Sometimes both new sets and PAB parts come that way though. I just mention it
in the listing because I don't want to run the risk of doing any damage myself
by prying them apart.
https://store.bricklink.com/Ziegelmeister?sID=2332882&itemID=416899318#/shop?o={%22invID%22:%22416899318%22}
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And as for the semantic definition of new/used, I specifically asked about the
65803 bricks last year and there is a note in that entry. When I asked about
listing as new or used nobody followed up. They come this way in both the
art sets and PAB. I've ordered maybe 3000 of them through PAB and maybe
80-90 of them came separated. https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1403480
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 01:44 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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Sometimes both new sets and PAB parts come that way though. I just mention it
in the listing because I don't want to run the risk of doing any damage myself
by prying them apart.
https://store.bricklink.com/Ziegelmeister?sID=2332882&itemID=416899318#/shop?o={%22invID%22:%22416899318%22}
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4x4 plates don't come that way though.
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| | | | | Author: | rickcraine | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 09:54 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, pedalingman writes:
| | Ordered 475 NEW 4x4 white plates from a 75 feedback seller. They came in all
stacked and in PAB boxes. Most of them are not even overlapping so it is extremely
hard to separate, not to mention that the parts are now used. New sellers -
don't be like this. Instant negative feedback for this!
RJ
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I do this to save money when I buy parts for myself at the PAB wall...but, gosh,
it is quite a chore to separate them...and to have to deal with that when you
buy on here...yuck. My brick separator understands your pain
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| | | | | Author: | tec | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 13:16 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I still appreciate parts SLIGHTLY stacked.
yes, half-connected. 1/16in separation before full connection. like a nail can
easily enter
so orderly
no scratching
no mixing
you find similar parts near each other
easy to count
easy to get apart
no work with knife
no knife damage on them
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 13:44 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, tec writes:
| | I still appreciate parts SLIGHTLY stacked.
yes, half-connected. 1/16in separation before full connection. like a nail can
easily enter
so orderly
no scratching
no mixing
you find similar parts near each other
easy to count
easy to get apart
no work with knife
no knife damage on them
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Stacking them opposite of each other on a “stack” is even better as no studs
are connected and it takes up very little space and it’s easy to separate
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Sep 6, 2024 15:52 | | Subject: | Re: New Sellers - Do NOT stack parts! | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Stacking them opposite of each other on a “stack” is even better as no studs
are connected and it takes up very little space and it’s easy to separate
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I'll sometimes (if there are enough) put bricks in a bag so it looks like
a failed game of Tetris
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Stacking them opposite of each other on a “stack” is even better as no studs
are connected and it takes up very little space and it’s easy to separate
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I'll sometimes (if there are enough) put bricks in a bag so it looks like
a failed game of Tetris
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