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 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jul 25, 2024 00:34
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7722-1
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SezaR (1446)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7722  Name: Steam Cargo Train, battery
* 
7722-1 (Inv) Steam Cargo Train, battery
466 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 1 Part 113578 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (match ID 4)
* Delete 1 Book binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Book binfbat4 Instructions for use of battery box (104285) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Book binfbat3 Instructions for use of battery box (104278) {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 4 to 4}
* Change 1 Book binfbat1 Instructions for use of battery box (104282) (Alternate) {match ID 4 to 4}
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Jul 25, 2024 00:39
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7722-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7722  Name: Steam Cargo Train, battery
* 
7722-1 (Inv) Steam Cargo Train, battery
466 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 1 Part 113578 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (match ID 4)
* Delete 1 Book binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Book binfbat4 Instructions for use of battery box (104285) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Book binfbat3 Instructions for use of battery box (104278) {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 4 to 4}
* Change 1 Book binfbat1 Instructions for use of battery box (104282) (Alternate) {match ID 4 to 4}

Books!
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jul 25, 2024 01:03
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7722-1
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In Inventories Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7722  Name: Steam Cargo Train, battery
* 
7722-1 (Inv) Steam Cargo Train, battery
466 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 1 Part 113578 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (match ID 4)
* Delete 1 Book binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Book binfbat4 Instructions for use of battery box (104285) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Book binfbat3 Instructions for use of battery box (104278) {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 4 to 4}
* Change 1 Book binfbat1 Instructions for use of battery box (104282) (Alternate) {match ID 4 to 4}

Books!

That was wild!
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Jul 25, 2024 01:10
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7722-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7722  Name: Steam Cargo Train, battery
* 
7722-1 (Inv) Steam Cargo Train, battery
466 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 1 Part 113578 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (match ID 4)
* Delete 1 Book binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Book binfbat4 Instructions for use of battery box (104285) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Book binfbat3 Instructions for use of battery box (104278) {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 4 to 4}
* Change 1 Book binfbat1 Instructions for use of battery box (104282) (Alternate) {match ID 4 to 4}

Books!

That was wild!

So much data! It was beautiful!
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jul 25, 2024 00:43
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7722-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7722  Name: Steam Cargo Train, battery
* 
7722-1 (Inv) Steam Cargo Train, battery
466 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 1 Part 113578 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113578-UK/F/NL (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Part 113582 (Not Applicable) Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I (match ID 4)
* Delete 1 Book binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Add 1 Book binfbat4 Instructions for use of battery box (104285) (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Book binfbat3 Instructions for use of battery box (104278) {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 4 to 4}
* Change 1 Book binfbat1 Instructions for use of battery box (104282) (Alternate) {match ID 4 to 4}

1) I am requesting to remove
 
Book No: binfbat2  Name: Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
* 
binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
Books: Informational Book: Technic: 4.5V
(Greek, Portuguese, Spanish) because I am not sure if 7722 was ever sold in any
of the countries in which one of these languages are spoken.

3) The copy-right year on the first version, printed in black-and-white, is 1982.
The copy-right year on the 2nd version, printed in color, is 1987.

4) I request to include the German-French-Italian D/F/I
 
Part No: 113582  Name: Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I
* 
113582 Paper Information Note, Use of Battery Box - 113582-D/F/I
Parts: Paper
as regular because I believe this is the most common variation, i.e. more copies
sold in Germany, Netherlands,...than UK,...

5) There were no second remark above.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jul 27, 2024 22:40
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7722-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:

  1) I am requesting to remove
 
Book No: binfbat2  Name: Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
* 
binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
Books: Informational Book: Technic: 4.5V
(Greek, Portuguese, Spanish) because I am not sure if 7722 was ever sold in any
of the countries in which one of these languages are spoken.


But you were the one who added it.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=345497
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jul 28, 2024 19:38
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:

  1) I am requesting to remove
 
Book No: binfbat2  Name: Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
* 
binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
Books: Informational Book: Technic: 4.5V
(Greek, Portuguese, Spanish) because I am not sure if 7722 was ever sold in any
of the countries in which one of these languages are spoken.


But you were the one who added it.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=345497

But were you the one who accepted the request?

When I made the request I overlooked it. My bad

I see it is already rejected. If you rejected it, it means you know 7722 was
sold on one of those countries (Spain, Portugal, Greece)?

I know 7722 came in 5 different language boxes but I have never seen a box in
Spanish, Portuguese, Greek.

It is possible that 7722 was sold there, but it was most likely imported. If
they sold it with a different language box, how do we know the battery information
paper was in Spanish, Portuguese and Greek?!

By the way, this paper information ([binfbat1, binfbat1,...) came in 3 sets and
two service packs.

I have a link to Spanish and Portuguese catalogs but the files in the link can
no longer be opened
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jul 28, 2024 21:51
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:

  1) I am requesting to remove
 
Book No: binfbat2  Name: Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
* 
binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
Books: Informational Book: Technic: 4.5V
(Greek, Portuguese, Spanish) because I am not sure if 7722 was ever sold in any
of the countries in which one of these languages are spoken.


But you were the one who added it.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=345497

But were you the one who accepted the request?


I have no idea.


  When I made the request I overlooked it. My bad

I see it is already rejected. If you rejected it, it means you know 7722 was
sold on one of those countries (Spain, Portugal, Greece)?


It's not rejected, yet. It is still pending because you were the one who
added it to the inventory and now you want to remove it. It is my role to figure
out why the flip-flopping is going on before doing anything further.


  I know 7722 came in 5 different language boxes but I have never seen a box in
Spanish, Portuguese, Greek.

It is possible that 7722 was sold there, but it was most likely imported. If
they sold it with a different language box, how do we know the battery information
paper was in Spanish, Portuguese and Greek?!


Well, if it can't be figured out, why are you submitting inventory change
requests? None of us catalog admins are going to know anything about this stuff,
so we have to take your word for it. Thus, flip-flopping on your change requests
makes it harder to trust what you are submitting.


  By the way, this paper information ([binfbat1, binfbat1,...) came in 3 sets and
two service packs.

I have a link to Spanish and Portuguese catalogs but the files in the link can
no longer be opened
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Aug 8, 2024 19:25
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7722-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:

  1) I am requesting to remove
 
Book No: binfbat2  Name: Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
* 
binfbat2 Instructions for use of battery box (104284)
Books: Informational Book: Technic: 4.5V
(Greek, Portuguese, Spanish) because I am not sure if 7722 was ever sold in any
of the countries in which one of these languages are spoken.


But you were the one who added it.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=345497

But were you the one who accepted the request?


I have no idea.


  When I made the request I overlooked it. My bad

I see it is already rejected. If you rejected it, it means you know 7722 was
sold on one of those countries (Spain, Portugal, Greece)?


It's not rejected, yet.

Ok, I requested to move the book
 
Book No: binfbat1  Name: Instructions for use of battery box (104282)
* 
binfbat1 Instructions for use of battery box (104282)
Books: Informational Book: Technic: 4.5V
to alternate section because it did not come in those copies sold between 1985-86
but it is rejected and I am not sure why.

  It is still pending because you were the one who
added it to the inventory and now you want to remove it. It is my role to figure
out why the flip-flopping is going on before doing anything further.

I explained I overlooked it. This happened long time ago but my guess is that
I wanted to add all these books to this set as they were orphan at the time but
I didn't realize one of them was in Spanish. I am sure If I had seen the
languages Spanish,... I would had been surprised and wondered if 7722 was sold
in Spain and then, why I had not seen 7722 with a Spanish/Portuguese/Greek box.

In the last 8 years, I have not seen a Spanish box 7722 so I was confident that
we need to remove this Spanish book from 7722. I did not check all sold copies
of 7722 to make sure it never came with 7722 and I am not sure how I can do that.
I did not verify all Lego shops who were selling Lego in Spain between 1985-90
neither!
I communicated also with a big collector and Lego store in Spain who also confirmed,
giving detailed information, that no 4.5v or push-along train (7710, 7715,
7720, 7722) between 1980-90 were sold in Spain. Obviously, 12v trains were not
sold neither.

  

  I know 7722 came in 5 different language boxes but I have never seen a box in
Spanish, Portuguese, Greek.

It is possible that 7722 was sold there, but it was most likely imported. If
they sold it with a different language box, how do we know the battery information
paper was in Spanish, Portuguese and Greek?!


Well, if it can't be figured out, why are you submitting inventory change
requests?

I already answered this but again: because we need an evidence for this book
that came with 7722. It is almost certain it was never sold in any of these countries.
The fact is that if these trains (7722, 7720,...) were indeed never sold in these
three countries, we have no way to verify this. Who can verify all used copies
7722 ever sold?!
So I am pretty sure it was never sold and until the opposite is proven to be
true, I believe it should be removed.
As to what set this Spanish book belong to, the answer is found: set 740-1
 
Set No: 740  Name: Basic Building Set
* 
740-1 (Inv) Basic Building Set
524 Parts, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic

  None of us catalog admins are going to know anything about this stuff,
so we have to take your word for it. Thus, flip-flopping on your change requests
makes it harder to trust what you are submitting.

To be fair, over the last few years, I made a couple of mistakes on quantities
too and they were even accepted! Having realized the mistakes, I submitted request
to correct them and they were accepted too. There is no difference this mistake
from those.
I have also seen mistakes from all regular submitters and also from catalog/inv.
team members. How did/do you continue trust them knowing they have made a few
mistakes? How can other users of BL trust them?

  

  By the way, this paper information ([binfbat1, binfbat1,...) came in 3 sets and
two service packs.

I have a link to Spanish and Portuguese catalogs but the files in the link can
no longer be opened