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 Author: billamber View Messages Posted By billamber
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 17:17
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billamber (2638)

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Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 17:22
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In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

don't forget to first sign up for germanys new packing law.
 Author: billamber View Messages Posted By billamber
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 17:28
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In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

don't forget to first sign up for germanys new packing law.

What??????
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 17:40
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In Shipping, billamber writes:
  In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

don't forget to first sign up for germanys new packing law.

What??????

its a confusing mess but from what has been talked about on the forums you have
to pay for Germany to recycle stuff or something but its a flat rate fee that
makes it not worth shipping to for most stores
 Author: billamber View Messages Posted By billamber
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 17:51
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billamber (2638)

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In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

don't forget to first sign up for germanys new packing law.

What??????

its a confusing mess but from what has been talked about on the forums you have
to pay for Germany to recycle stuff or something but its a flat rate fee that
makes it not worth shipping to for most stores

that IS confusing...thanks! (I think) lol
 Author: billamber View Messages Posted By billamber
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 17:54
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billamber (2638)

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In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

don't forget to first sign up for germanys new packing law.

What??????

its a confusing mess but from what has been talked about on the forums you have
to pay for Germany to recycle stuff or something but its a flat rate fee that
makes it not worth shipping to for most stores

that IS confusing...thanks! (I think) lol
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 17:57
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Nubs_Select (4907)

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In Shipping, billamber writes:
  In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

don't forget to first sign up for germanys new packing law.

What??????

its a confusing mess but from what has been talked about on the forums you have
to pay for Germany to recycle stuff or something but its a flat rate fee that
makes it not worth shipping to for most stores

that IS confusing...thanks! (I think) lol

yah its a mess. some people have said they shipped their without issue but then
again they may just get lucky but many stores (myself included) no longer sell
to Germany
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 18:49
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In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
  yah its a mess. some people have said they shipped their without issue but then
again they may just get lucky but many stores (myself included) no longer sell
to Germany

Yes, sadly that's what I would recommend. Compliance with the law seems onerous:
https://support.pirateship.com/en/articles/6236429-new-packaging-laws-for-german-shipments

And from what I'm reading BrickLink, as an online marketplace, has its own
obligations under the law - requiring, e.g., sellers to have valid LUCID registration
before shipping to Germany.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 18:01
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In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

Hi,

Was the amount above €150?
In that case, the buyer will pay VAT at delivery (plus a broker fee).

Another possibility is the buyer is VAT-registered and asked not to be charged
VAT when they ordered.  (They would then have to handle VAT themselves, something
sellers can do.)
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 18:41
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In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

Printing out a VAT receipt and attaching it to the outside of the package isn't
enough - you need to send the IOSS number electronically. But it sounds like
BL didn't collect VAT on the order for whatever reason (there are a couple
of reasons why that might have happened).
 Author: faro View Messages Posted By faro
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 19:05
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In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

You need to put in the IOSS number electronically.
Paperwork on the outside does not work anymore
Otherwise the buyer pays double VAT and 6 Euro service charge on top
 Author: rtzx9r View Messages Posted By rtzx9r
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 21:39
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In Shipping, faro writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

You need to put in the IOSS number electronically.
Paperwork on the outside does not work anymore
Otherwise the buyer pays double VAT and 6 Euro service charge on top

I just shipped a $40 package and it was delivered in under 2 weeks, no issues.
Guess I need to look into what they want now and maybe in check Germany as a
valid option.
 Author: rtzx9r View Messages Posted By rtzx9r
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 21:42
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In Shipping, rtzx9r writes:
  In Shipping, faro writes:
  In Shipping, billamber writes:
  Hi all...quick question...
When shipping from the US to Germany, used to have to print out vat receipt and
attach to outside of package....I didn't get a receipt nor did the buyer
pay anything other than coast plus shipping...Has this requirement changed? thanks
for any help (don't want the package coming back to me

You need to put in the IOSS number electronically.
Paperwork on the outside does not work anymore
Otherwise the buyer pays double VAT and 6 Euro service charge on top

I just shipped a $40 package and it was delivered in under 2 weeks, no issues.
Guess I need to look into what they want now and maybe in check Germany as a
valid option.

Edit…

Assume this is the requirement…

https://blog.stamps.com/2021/06/21/shipping-to-eu-new-vat-rules-starting-july-1-2021/


Important Note: The IOSS portal is NOT required for U.S. sellers. It is an optional
program intended to expedite e-commerce order delivery to EU countries, while
collecting VAT efficiently. U.S. sellers who do not register for IOSS will have
their packages delivered Delivery Duty Unpaid, meaning the buyer must pay VAT
and potential additional customs clearance fees before the shipping carrier will
release their package.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 8, 2023 23:14
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In Shipping, rtzx9r writes:
  […]
Assume this is the requirement…

https://blog.stamps.com/2021/06/21/shipping-to-eu-new-vat-rules-starting-july-1-2021/

It’s ABSOLUTELY NOT the requirement!

What you found is the new import VAT rules.  The German requirement is about
paying for recycling your packaging.


(The new import VAT rules are the reason BrickLink, and not the sellers,
is registred to IOSS as a marketplace/facilitator, and is absolutely required
to be registred.  It’s a few lines after the bit you quoted for sellers who
don’t use a marketplace.
)
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