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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 11:42
 Subject: Moderate Forum Posts
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StormChaser (569)

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I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.
 Author: blockbuster View Messages Posted By blockbuster
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 11:47
 Subject: Re: Moderate Forum Posts
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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.
 Author: _legoloco_ View Messages Posted By _legoloco_
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 11:55
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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

+ another 1
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 11:56
 Subject: Re: Moderate Forum Posts
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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

Yet another +1
 Author: Ryanme View Messages Posted By Ryanme
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 12:06
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Ryanme (68)

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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 12:15
 Subject: Re: Moderate Forum Posts
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yorbrick (1185)

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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

I guess it depends on the turn around time for the posts to be moderated. If
they can be done in 10 minutes, it is OK. However, if a new user needing help
has to wait 24 hours for a post to be approved, then they will probably attempt
to post it half a dozen times before giving up on BL altogether.
 Author: Pippysblocks View Messages Posted By Pippysblocks
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 12:23
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I'm all for too but Yorbrick has a point, this happens on a Facebook group
I belong to, sometimes I publish a last miniute event but it doesn't get
approaved for some time and by then it's all too late. Be great if it was
a quick turn around as the spammers are a right pain.

In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

I guess it depends on the turn around time for the posts to be moderated. If
they can be done in 10 minutes, it is OK. However, if a new user needing help
has to wait 24 hours for a post to be approved, then they will probably attempt
to post it half a dozen times before giving up on BL altogether.
 Author: Killermike View Messages Posted By Killermike
 Posted: Sep 13, 2017 06:40
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Killermike (725)

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Valid point.

One solution would be to exempt the moderation for new users in the HELP section;
but impose a 1 or 2 msg per hour limit; it would 'throttle' the spammers,
and still allow newer members to post problem issues.
 Author: Ryanme View Messages Posted By Ryanme
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 12:29
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Ryanme (68)

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It would also be nice if the posts were deleted instead of marked as cancelled.
This morning going through the board, I had to scroll past probably 25 or more
"Cancelled" posts
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 12:31
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In Suggestions, Ryanme writes:
  It would also be nice if the posts were deleted instead of marked as cancelled.
This morning going through the board, I had to scroll past probably 25 or more
"Cancelled" posts

There is a setting for that one at least...

Niek.
 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 15:06
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Cob (3566)

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In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
  In Suggestions, Ryanme writes:
  It would also be nice if the posts were deleted instead of marked as cancelled.
This morning going through the board, I had to scroll past probably 25 or more
"Cancelled" posts

There is a setting for that one at least...

Niek.

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 Author: Ryanme View Messages Posted By Ryanme
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 15:30
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Ryanme (68)

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Thanks to you both. I wasn't aware of that!
 Author: QCBricks View Messages Posted By QCBricks
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 16:07
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QCBricks (13609)

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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

Not a bad idea, but the bigger issue seems to be to limit the total number of
posts that a new member can make. It isn't the random one off posts, it
is the "post it 50 times" that is the bigger problem of the two.

Scott
 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 16:40
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Cob (3566)

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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

Round 2 of spam posts just started.
 Author: Pippysblocks View Messages Posted By Pippysblocks
 Posted: Sep 12, 2017 16:55
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Pippysblocks (4784)

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Yep, I'm now all for the original suggestion, this is a joke.

In Suggestions, Cob writes:
  In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

Round 2 of spam posts just started.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Sep 13, 2017 11:46
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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

Another fantastic idea from StormChaser.

However, I think yorbrick has a point, in that newly signed-up members are often
those that are of need of help. We all know how it is when we’re new to something;
if it’s too troublesome many of us simply give-up on the idea and move on.

I don’t know what the current sign-up rate is, but I believe I read from another
post, it’s fairly high. Which would overly burden the volunteer moderators.
If it were me, I’d feel the need to offer compensation to said moderators, if
I were to ask them to take on the added role.

Maybe an amendment to your idea? Restrict new member's (however "new" can
be determined) posts to the “Help” topic only. At least until a level of activity
is reached by said member. This would restrict spam post somewhat, or at least
keep them confined.

Ryanme, also has a valid point regarding this issue. Why not let the mods use
a demarcation “Deleted” when dealing with such posts?

-IMHO
 Author: chetzler View Messages Posted By chetzler
 Posted: Sep 13, 2017 12:06
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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

I still think some sort of filter is the best way to slow this down. If the
member is new (zero-feedback or recent sign-up date), block any posts containing
key words or variants thereof. Better yet, block any posts containing a character
count over some specified number (500-1000), since most of the spam posts seem
to be quite long-winded. This still allows new members to post legitimate questions
unhindered, and established members won't get tripped up by unintentionally
triggering the filter.

Also, when the spammer is logged in, his posts should still show for him so he
doesn't know he's being blocked and won't try to circumvent the filter.
 Author: QA_Sheryl View Messages Posted By QA_Sheryl
 Posted: Sep 22, 2017 11:17
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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  I suggest that members with 2 or less feedback have their forum posts moderated,
meaning that posts must be approved by a moderator before appearing in the forum.
This should resolve the issue of scammers joining BrickLink merely to post spam
in the forum.

Please see:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1049510