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| | | Author: | ranarn  | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 14:06 | | Subject: | Better Forum | | Viewed: | 358 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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| | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 14:09 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| +1
Many times suggested before, complaints enough to search trough, no improvement
seen still.... damn, was this actually on the idealist at all I wonder ? 
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| | | | | Author: | bb844618 | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Is using the "Entire thread on one page" feature what you are looking for?
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| | | | | | | Author: | ranarn | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 14:31 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, JMTBricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Is using the "Entire thread on one page" feature what you are looking for?
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Not really, its better, but i'd say far from how it could be.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 14:58 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | In Suggestions, JMTBricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Is using the "Entire thread on one page" feature what you are looking for?
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Not really, its better, but i'd say far from how it could be.
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Worst forum I have ever seen. I know some people are used to it, but at least
if they change the forum to something even by this decade's standards it
shouldn't effect sales...
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| | | | | Author: | Macaronis | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 14:24 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Yawn......
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| | | | | Author: | nectara | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 14:48 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Waiting for the old farts to tell us that on Windows95 this forum works perfect
and no change need it
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 14:50 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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I think http://forum.bricklink.com , which is now dedicated to Stud.io, could
serve some time, “BL-soonish”.
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| | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 19:18 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Voted no. The BrickLink Forum is perfect here. Once you learn to use it, you
can find your way around quite fast.
The only thing I would like in addition is the ability to flag messages and threads,
and receive notifications. But that could be added to what we have.
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| | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 19:40 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, viejos writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Voted no. The BrickLink Forum is perfect here. Once you learn to use it, you
can find your way around quite fast.
The only thing I would like in addition is the ability to flag messages and threads,
and receive notifications. But that could be added to what we have.
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I love the message tree, it is excellent for the larger and more complicated
discussions that we have here. In my opinion this layout might look old-fashioned,
but it makes discussions much more efficient.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Cosy | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 20:43 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | ranarn | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 04:33 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.
And its not perfect, nothing ever is. There is always room for improvement.
In Suggestions, viejos writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Haven't been using the forum much on Bricklink, but the recent change of
Average Price removal got me to want to discuss that topic.
And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Voted no. The BrickLink Forum is perfect here. Once you learn to use it, you
can find your way around quite fast.
The only thing I would like in addition is the ability to flag messages and threads,
and receive notifications. But that could be added to what we have.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 04:59 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.
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If a user cannot learn to use the forum, then they don't have a chance with
the main BL site.
I also disagree about there shouldn't be a learning curve. If you are used
to one technology, then any new technology will be different and hence there
is a learning curve. For example, when gmail came along, there was a different
approach to storing emails. For many people that took some time to get used to,
different to storing emails in individual folders.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.
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No offense, but your argument fails because there is *always* a learning curve
for *any* software, technology, website, game, etc. It may take minutes, hours,
days, whatever, but there is *always* an acclimation period to anything new we
humans do in our lifetimes.
And no, there does not have to be anything inherently wrong with a software or
technology if just a few people are having problems with it. You cannot please
everyone all of the time, but you can please most people most of the time. I
think this forum already does that.
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 12:49 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.
And its not perfect, nothing ever is. There is always room for improvement.
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What I meant by perfect, was that the type of forum that we have now is a perfect
fit for this site. The kind of discussions we often have on BrickLink lend themselves
to the tree structure. I also think it's important to have people's ID
cards displayed prominently along with all the other information about the post
itself.
And yes, I do use other forums quite heavily. I have over 10,000 upvotes on my
Disqus profile and every few weeks I have to clear my block list (max 1000 users)
because I block and flag constantly. I could barely name a handful of profiles
I have gotten to "know" over the years.
Contrast that to BrickLink where I've never blocked anybody, and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. The BrickLink forum has
a personal feel to it, and we risk losing that if we import something generic.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, viejos writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.
And its not perfect, nothing ever is. There is always room for improvement.
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What I meant by perfect, was that the type of forum that we have now is a perfect
fit for this site. The kind of discussions we often have on BrickLink lend themselves
to the tree structure. I also think it's important to have people's ID
cards displayed prominently along with all the other information about the post
itself.
And yes, I do use other forums quite heavily. I have over 10,000 upvotes on my
Disqus profile and every few weeks I have to clear my block list (max 1000 users)
because I block and flag constantly. I could barely name a handful of profiles
I have gotten to "know" over the years.
Contrast that to BrickLink where I've never blocked anybody, and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. The BrickLink forum has
a personal feel to it, and we risk losing that if we import something generic.
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+1 you said it perfectly for me too
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ranarn | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 14:28 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Yea lets not embrace the future and newer technology's, let stay in the past.
Everything was better before, don't change anything that works.
If everyone had that mindset we would still live in the stone-age.
In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Suggestions, viejos writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Just when you say: Once you learn to use it, your argument fails.
Have you used any other modern communication platform? There shouldn't be
any learning curve, if just a few people are having problem with it, then something
is wrong.
And its not perfect, nothing ever is. There is always room for improvement.
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What I meant by perfect, was that the type of forum that we have now is a perfect
fit for this site. The kind of discussions we often have on BrickLink lend themselves
to the tree structure. I also think it's important to have people's ID
cards displayed prominently along with all the other information about the post
itself.
And yes, I do use other forums quite heavily. I have over 10,000 upvotes on my
Disqus profile and every few weeks I have to clear my block list (max 1000 users)
because I block and flag constantly. I could barely name a handful of profiles
I have gotten to "know" over the years.
Contrast that to BrickLink where I've never blocked anybody, and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. The BrickLink forum has
a personal feel to it, and we risk losing that if we import something generic.
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+1 you said it perfectly for me too
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 15:14 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| What would you actually change?
You say you want modern, but what exactly would you propose?
I find I can follow a thread quite easily, for example.
Rather than just saying you want change, say what you would change.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ranarn | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Good Question, and of course i should have stated some examples, instead of just
saying that it's bad.
First, the tree approach, it's not a bad thing, and works pretty good when
a discussion is kept relatively small and you read each post.
But when more and more people join, and you get multiple levels of replies, each
tend to go it's own way when it branches out from the main tree. And a tree
structure makes really hard for someone that is coming into the discussion later
to see the latest "talk" or get a overview what has been replied earlier, you
often need to check each branch of the tree. I am more into the "reddit" approach,
where the hot or popular replies is what is showed at the top. Or the "standard"
flat forum approach with pages and not creating branches of replies.
Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...
For an example of a modern forum i suggest looking at: https://www.discourse.org
In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | What would you actually change?
You say you want modern, but what exactly would you propose?
I find I can follow a thread quite easily, for example.
Rather than just saying you want change, say what you would change.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | FigBits | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 22:32 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Good Question, and of course i should have stated some examples, instead of just
saying that it's bad.
First, the tree approach, it's not a bad thing, and works pretty good when
a discussion is kept relatively small and you read each post.
But when more and more people join, and you get multiple levels of replies, each
tend to go it's own way when it branches out from the main tree. And a tree
structure makes really hard for someone that is coming into the discussion later
to see the latest "talk" or get a overview what has been replied earlier, you
often need to check each branch of the tree. I am more into the "reddit" approach,
where the hot or popular replies is what is showed at the top. Or the "standard"
flat forum approach with pages and not creating branches of replies.
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I very much disagree there, at least compared to a flat view. Having a branching
tree is a huge benefit. One improvement would be to be able to collapse a branch
(as on reddit). But if this is your major concern, I think you are way off. The
branching structure is a huge benefit of the current format. It is not a fault
at all.
| | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
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To me, that's largely irrelevant. I care much more about content than style.
For the site itself, the style is important, because it's a commercial website
that is looking to make money for its sellers (myself among them). But for the
forum? Who cares. The appearance is neither a positive nor a negative. It's
irrelevant.
| | Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...
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Notifications and message tracking, absolutely. Those should be added. Tags already
exist for catalog items. Referencing other users: meh. Online status of users:
meh. Avatars? Please no. There are way too many juvenile forums where 50% of
the "content" is animated gift and signature files. That contributes nothing
to actual discussions, and we are better off without them.
So ... Yes, we could use the ability to track read/unread status, and receive
notifications.
That's about it.
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Marc.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Smron | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 22:41 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Good Question, and of course i should have stated some examples, instead of just
saying that it's bad.
First, the tree approach, it's not a bad thing, and works pretty good when
a discussion is kept relatively small and you read each post.
But when more and more people join, and you get multiple levels of replies, each
tend to go it's own way when it branches out from the main tree. And a tree
structure makes really hard for someone that is coming into the discussion later
to see the latest "talk" or get a overview what has been replied earlier, you
often need to check each branch of the tree. I am more into the "reddit" approach,
where the hot or popular replies is what is showed at the top. Or the "standard"
flat forum approach with pages and not creating branches of replies.
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I very much disagree there, at least compared to a flat view. Having a branching
tree is a huge benefit. One improvement would be to be able to collapse a branch
(as on reddit). But if this is your major concern, I think you are way off. The
branching structure is a huge benefit of the current format. It is not a fault
at all.
| | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
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To me, that's largely irrelevant. I care much more about content than style.
For the site itself, the style is important, because it's a commercial website
that is looking to make money for its sellers (myself among them). But for the
forum? Who cares. The appearance is neither a positive nor a negative. It's
irrelevant.
| | Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...
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Notifications and message tracking, absolutely. Those should be added. Tags already
exist for catalog items. Referencing other users: meh. Online status of users:
meh. Avatars? Please no. There are way too many juvenile forums where 50% of
the "content" is animated gift and signature files. That contributes nothing
to actual discussions, and we are better off without them.
So ... Yes, we could use the ability to track read/unread status, and receive
notifications.
That's about it.
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Marc.
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More or less agree. I'm not sure we need a 'new forum', but our current
forum could use some upgrades.
Top things I would like to see...
1) Ability to collapse threads.
2) Ability to edit posts
3) Deleting cancelled posts
4) Notifications/mentions/user tags
5) Ability to find a post 'helpful' or not. (This one isn't really
important, I just wanted to get my list to 5 things...)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 05:32 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Smron writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Good Question, and of course i should have stated some examples, instead of just
saying that it's bad.
First, the tree approach, it's not a bad thing, and works pretty good when
a discussion is kept relatively small and you read each post.
But when more and more people join, and you get multiple levels of replies, each
tend to go it's own way when it branches out from the main tree. And a tree
structure makes really hard for someone that is coming into the discussion later
to see the latest "talk" or get a overview what has been replied earlier, you
often need to check each branch of the tree. I am more into the "reddit" approach,
where the hot or popular replies is what is showed at the top. Or the "standard"
flat forum approach with pages and not creating branches of replies.
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I very much disagree there, at least compared to a flat view. Having a branching
tree is a huge benefit. One improvement would be to be able to collapse a branch
(as on reddit). But if this is your major concern, I think you are way off. The
branching structure is a huge benefit of the current format. It is not a fault
at all.
| | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
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To me, that's largely irrelevant. I care much more about content than style.
For the site itself, the style is important, because it's a commercial website
that is looking to make money for its sellers (myself among them). But for the
forum? Who cares. The appearance is neither a positive nor a negative. It's
irrelevant.
| | Some technical features that would be nice is, notification, unread message tracking,
templates, tags, ability mention or reference other people, online status of
users, avatars etc...
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Notifications and message tracking, absolutely. Those should be added. Tags already
exist for catalog items. Referencing other users: meh. Online status of users:
meh. Avatars? Please no. There are way too many juvenile forums where 50% of
the "content" is animated gift and signature files. That contributes nothing
to actual discussions, and we are better off without them.
So ... Yes, we could use the ability to track read/unread status, and receive
notifications.
That's about it.
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Marc.
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More or less agree. I'm not sure we need a 'new forum', but our current
forum could use some upgrades.
Top things I would like to see...
1) Ability to collapse threads.
2) Ability to edit posts
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For me please no on that one, there is nothing worse than reading a thread that
no longer makes any sense as all the replies refer to something that has been
changed by a member who saw the replies so decided to change his message. If
you make a mistake or want to change your opinion after the event I think it
is fine to state that via another post later in the thread after all surely that
is what debate is for.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 05:10 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
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Do you think new users have a problem posting and using the forum? As quite a
few completely new users (as in zero feedback, so new to the site) have posted
here recently.
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| Yes absolutely, i have a few friends that looked at it, and decided to never
look at it again, cause it looks like a mailing-list discussion from before they
where born.
For me personally it works good, i have no major problem with it now. And to
create a new post is not that hard, i think most will manage it they try.
But what the problem is not you and me or the older generation. It's the
younger generation that today is used with things like facebook, instagram, disqus,
reddit, where everything is simplistic, easy to understand, modern looking and
a minimal learning curve.
And if we want them to contribute and be a part in these "forums" it needs to
be more what they are used to.
In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Second is style, it looks outdated and not very modern. I know that the "CORE"
users of the forum at the moment like it, and is happy with what it is, but to
broaden the usage from new users, it needs to be made more modern and easier,
explainable icons instead of text links maybe, Simplicity is the key.
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Do you think new users have a problem posting and using the forum? As quite a
few completely new users (as in zero feedback, so new to the site) have posted
here recently.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 07:50 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Yes absolutely, i have a few friends that looked at it, and decided to never
look at it again, cause it looks like a mailing-list discussion from before they
where born.
For me personally it works good, i have no major problem with it now. And to
create a new post is not that hard, i think most will manage it they try.
But what the problem is not you and me or the older generation. It's the
younger generation that today is used with things like facebook, instagram, disqus,
reddit, where everything is simplistic, easy to understand, modern looking and
a minimal learning curve.
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Don't underestimate the talents of young people.
I have a nephew and niece who are too young to join this website and can find
their way around Facebook and the like better than I can (probably partly because
it interests them more than it does me) but they can also very quickly understand
and add value in old technology discussions too. I would say overall it is easier
for the young minds to understand and engage with us than it is for many older
people to adapt to new technology.
Or course there is a balance to be struck somewhere along the line. My parents
could never program a video recorder but the current young generation have both
iPods and vinyl.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | viejos | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 10:29 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Yes absolutely, i have a few friends that looked at it, and decided to never
look at it again, cause it looks like a mailing-list discussion from before they
where born.
For me personally it works good, i have no major problem with it now. And to
create a new post is not that hard, i think most will manage it they try.
But what the problem is not you and me or the older generation. It's the
younger generation that today is used with things like facebook, instagram, disqus,
reddit, where everything is simplistic, easy to understand, modern looking and
a minimal learning curve.
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I think you're getting confused by the "skin" on these applications. Take
disqus for example. It regularly crashes during high usage. I must have seen
that silly little snowman a dozen times just since the beginning of the year.
Second, there is very poor documentation provided for people to understand what
all these cryptic little icons do, with the result that many users don't
know how to favorite a thread, block a user, or even sort the posts. Very few
know the difference between reporting a user to disqus and reporting someone
to the local mods.
Also, when it comes to managing your profile, things like the block list are
in the stone ages. There is no way to sort or mass unblock, so literally every
user has to be unblocked manually. It's such a primitive system, I consider
it a real chore to do anything on that platform.
And they've got bugs. Click on a user profile while writing a post, and bingo,
when you finally post your well-crafted narrative, up comes the cartoon screen
of death. A back page will do nothing. Your post is lost. And the notification
bubble does not work right. And on and on. They also recently started putting
ads in the middle of the reply list.
You are correct when you describe these trendy modern platforms as "simplistic".
They are indeed that, meaning that the UI has been minimalized to give the impression
of simplicity. But in reality, that is just a mask for a very complex structure
underneath that most users do not understand completely.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2017 05:39 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Yea lets not embrace the future and newer technology's, let stay in the past.
Everything was better before, don't change anything that works.
If everyone had that mindset we would still live in the stone-age.
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I guess the opposite of that is-
Let's change everything for no reason other than that there is something
newer available.
Both are wrong IMO and I didn't say don't change anything... I just like
changes to be for the right reasons not just because of technology. Many people
still ride horses despite the invention of the motorcycle 
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 13:11 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, viejos writes:
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and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. […]
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Hmm, that would be what? 3 people?
(Like the forum as it is now: a web-ized mailing list.)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 17:42 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, viejos writes:
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and I recognize
at least half of all the people who post in the forum. […]
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Hmm, that would be what? 3 people?
(Like the forum as it is now: a web-ized mailing list.)
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Ah, yes please. I vote to turn it into a mailing list, great suggestion. Glad
to see there are more fans here.
Niek.
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| | | | | Author: | Made_In_Bricks | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2017 20:32 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| can you please let me know how I have been doing the impossible since I joined
bricklink?
| | And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
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| | | | | | | Author: | ranarn | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 04:36 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Ok rephrase, not impossible, but unnecessary hard.
Always room for improvement, there is a reason no forum on the internet looks
like this nowdays, and if it was so great, why did they use a modern forum for
stud.io for example?
In Suggestions, Made_In_Bricks writes:
| | can you please let me know how I have been doing the impossible since I joined
bricklink?
| | And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 11:22 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Ok rephrase, not impossible, but unnecessary hard.
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You, as well as many others (even new users!), seem to be doing quite well with
something that is unnecessarily hard. #FirstWorldProblems
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 11:28 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Ok rephrase, not impossible, but unnecessary hard.
Always room for improvement, there is a reason no forum on the internet looks
like this nowdays, and if it was so great, why did they use a modern forum for
stud.io for example?
In Suggestions, Made_In_Bricks writes:
| | can you please let me know how I have been doing the impossible since I joined
bricklink?
| | And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
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To me, it once again comes down to a fixed amount of time and what would I want
them spending their time on.
It's totally unknown what % of bricklink users even KNOW about the forum,
much less use it.
1% maybe?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Pher | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 11:46 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Ok rephrase, not impossible, but unnecessary hard.
Always room for improvement, there is a reason no forum on the internet looks
like this nowdays, and if it was so great, why did they use a modern forum for
stud.io for example?
In Suggestions, Made_In_Bricks writes:
| | can you please let me know how I have been doing the impossible since I joined
bricklink?
| | And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
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To me, it once again comes down to a fixed amount of time and what would I want
them spending their time on.
It's totally unknown what % of bricklink users even KNOW about the forum,
much less use it.
1% maybe?
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We could start a poll in the forum to find out
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 11:53 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Pher writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brettj666 writes:
| | In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
| | Ok rephrase, not impossible, but unnecessary hard.
Always room for improvement, there is a reason no forum on the internet looks
like this nowdays, and if it was so great, why did they use a modern forum for
stud.io for example?
In Suggestions, Made_In_Bricks writes:
| | can you please let me know how I have been doing the impossible since I joined
bricklink?
| | And the forum is very poorly implemented, impossible to follow a thread or get
a overview of current topics.
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To me, it once again comes down to a fixed amount of time and what would I want
them spending their time on.
It's totally unknown what % of bricklink users even KNOW about the forum,
much less use it.
1% maybe?
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We could start a poll in the forum to find out
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haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 11:56 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | We could start a poll in the forum to find out
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haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.
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I doubt it would be 100%. I reckon some forum users would vote no.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brettj666 | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 12:12 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | | | We could start a poll in the forum to find out
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haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.
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I doubt it would be 100%. I reckon some forum users would vote no.
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Like that baseball writer that got to vote on the hall of fame and voted for
either Cal Ripken or Tony Gwynn..
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Pher | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | | | We could start a poll in the forum to find out
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haha, 100% of people that voted knew there was a forum.
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I doubt it would be 100%. I reckon some forum users would vote no.
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Forum? Which forum? 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 11:48 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | It's totally unknown what % of bricklink users even KNOW about the forum,
much less use it.
1% maybe?
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A reasonable number of new users (under 10 feedback) seem to be finding it and
using it. I imagine quite a lot of users do know about it, just don't use
it.
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| | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 12:42 | | Subject: | Re: Better Forum | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ranarn writes:
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So my suggestion is a modern forum, that works like most other forums, i don't
know what the current is, something from the 90:s ?
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Do you mean the 1990s or 1890s?
John P
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2017 15:06 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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