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| | | Author: | Locutis  | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 08:39 | | Subject: | Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 502 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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| | | | | Author: | eti | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 08:51 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I don't think that all small hobby sellers can get hold of a credit card. Banks
hand them out easier than they used to, but if you don't have an income I doubt
they will give you one. It's not a very common way of paying inside Europe anyway
since we do everything by PIN or bank transfers.
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| | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 08:53 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 95 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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All these things are subject to "get arounds" by crooks and whilst there has
been much talk on here lately of crooks, this place is, in my experience, one
of the safest places to trade as a buyer or seller. I think this forum must give
the opposite impression to new members and this is simply not the case.
That said, I'd love to see some sort of "bonded seller" scheme where sellers
have proven themselves to Admin sufficient enough to "guarantee" in some way
their dealings. I think though this would be much more work for Admin than requiring
a credit card and of course could be argued to swing things in favour of a crooked
buyer (those too are very few here).
Net, I don't think the problem is big enough or the solution obvious enough at
this time but I'd be interested in working on it if Admin ever saw the need.
Robert
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| | | | | Author: | Stone_Goblin | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 08:55 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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It is better to create incentives for commerce than prohibitions of participation.
I object to the idea that one needs a credit card in order to buy OR sell items,
clearly.
There's nothing preventing some voluntary organization of BrickLink sellers where
they could certify one another as 'trusted' merchants. You could then use a certification
graphic with a link to an offsite page verifying the status of the participating
seller within your group. You could optionally accept membership fees to this
certification group, and if you wanted to go further to create trust with customers,
set up some kind of insurance or support if participating members failed to live
up to the group's standard of association. Problem solved, IMHO. 
John @ LibertyBRICK
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| | | | | | | Author: | CPgolfaddict | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 10:38 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Stone_Goblin writes:
| | In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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It is better to create incentives for commerce than prohibitions of participation.
I object to the idea that one needs a credit card in order to buy OR sell items,
clearly.
There's nothing preventing some voluntary organization of BrickLink sellers where
they could certify one another as 'trusted' merchants. You could then use a certification
graphic with a link to an offsite page verifying the status of the participating
seller within your group. You could optionally accept membership fees to this
certification group, and if you wanted to go further to create trust with customers,
set up some kind of insurance or support if participating members failed to live
up to the group's standard of association. Problem solved, IMHO.
John @ LibertyBRICK
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If we went down this sort of path, we could easily become like other ratings
agency/organizations. See news in recent years in the US regarding:
A. The Better Business Bureau (BBB) giving good ratings to poor companies that
pay the BBB.
B. Debt rating agencies that were part of the problem in the housing market
bubble. (Moody's, Standard & Poor's, etc).
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stone_Goblin | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 11:00 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| "easily"? That's a stretch, though I can see some AFOL's spending habits as being
potentially harmful to their personal finances. 
The organizations you mention are large and influential in part because of collusion
with political and financial institutions with incentives derived outside of
pleasing customers and open competition. The moral hazard to commit fraud is
directly tied to ones accountability to their actions, or lack thereof.
BrickLink merchants are tethered to feedback and community pressures to maintain
credibility. Certification is not a panacea. In all things, competition can help
to keep participants honest. Competing certification could solve the problem
at any scale.
John @ LibertyBRICK
In Suggestions, CPgolfaddict writes:
| | If we went down this sort of path, we could easily become like other ratings
agency/organizations. See news in recent years in the US regarding:
A. The Better Business Bureau (BBB) giving good ratings to poor companies that
pay the BBB.
B. Debt rating agencies that were part of the problem in the housing market
bubble. (Moody's, Standard & Poor's, etc).
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| | | | | Author: | Stacey_Love | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 08:57 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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I Vote NO, many people do not have credit cards.
and it will not deter fraudsters, sorry but no from here.
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| | | | | | | Author: | whitefane | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2021 01:10 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Agree! Not every honest seller has credit cards. And it won't stop bad seller
at all. Actually it is very easy to get a credit card and a link of the credit
card cannot stop anything.
In Suggestions, Stacey_Love writes:
| | In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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I Vote NO, many people do not have credit cards.
and it will not deter fraudsters, sorry but no from here.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2021 05:32 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, whitefane writes:
| | Agree! Not every honest seller has credit cards. And it won't stop bad seller
at all. Actually it is very easy to get a credit card and a link of the credit
card cannot stop anything.
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Do you realise that suggestion is over 10 years old?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | pitz8008 | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2021 05:57 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, whitefane writes:
| | Agree! Not every honest seller has credit cards. And it won't stop bad seller
at all. Actually it is very easy to get a credit card and a link of the credit
card cannot stop anything.
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Do you realise that suggestion is over 10 years old?
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I'm really curious how something like this thread gets brought back to the
forum 10 years later? Did you go through every post ever? Type in "credit card"
and this is what turned up? Really curious.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2021 07:11 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, pitz8008 writes:
| | In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, whitefane writes:
| | Agree! Not every honest seller has credit cards. And it won't stop bad seller
at all. Actually it is very easy to get a credit card and a link of the credit
card cannot stop anything.
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Do you realise that suggestion is over 10 years old?
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I'm really curious how something like this thread gets brought back to the
forum 10 years later? Did you go through every post ever? Type in "credit card"
and this is what turned up? Really curious.
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Maybe there’s an old military depot of chemicals near BL and some leaked to the
servers through the ground and somehow ressurected this thread?
Sepulchral voice: “Brickzz — tasty brickzz….”
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| | | | | Author: | BLUSER_228233 | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 09:01 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| This one is very easy for a seasoned scammer to get around, and it also puts
many sellers from "obscure" countries (like mine) in disadvantage because it's
not easy for them to get a CC.
But as an option, yes.
Nick
In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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| | | | | Author: | BLUSER_217422 | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 09:07 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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It's a NO from me, if a fraudster can get around the paypal verification and
addresses etc and be paying the BL fees surely they will get around the credit
card verification as well.
To sell, be it online or a traditional shop - possibly even more important online,
a store needs to build a reputation. On BL feedback is the obvious way for building
a reputation shared with all, though regular and valuable contributions in chat
or on the forum would not go unnoticed.
TBH (and truthfully not meaning to offend and apologise in advance should I do
so) this concept sounds like a plan from someone desperate to sell and get around
the nervousness buyers including myself treat a store with only feedback of 4.
Build a reputation buy from other stores to stock your own to build feeback
numbers possibly, and the customers will come.
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| | | | | | | Author: | bb153906 | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 09:12 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I also vote no. Since the fact that my FOP would keep me from getting a job,
I probably couldn't get a card. I also don't want to make it easier for identity
thieves.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Locutis | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 09:33 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, whooshka82 writes:
| | In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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It's a NO from me, if a fraudster can get around the paypal verification and
addresses etc and be paying the BL fees surely they will get around the credit
card verification as well.
To sell, be it online or a traditional shop - possibly even more important online,
a store needs to build a reputation. On BL feedback is the obvious way for building
a reputation shared with all, though regular and valuable contributions in chat
or on the forum would not go unnoticed.
TBH (and truthfully not meaning to offend and apologise in advance should I do
so) this concept sounds like a plan from someone desperate to sell and get around
the nervousness buyers including myself treat a store with only feedback of 4.
Build a reputation buy from other stores to stock your own to build feeback
numbers possibly, and the customers will come.
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I realize that a fraudster can get around verifications, but many can't. This
would eliminate the ones who can't get around the verification. I also understand
that you need to build a reputation, but what happens when you have accumulated
a bunch of Lego, or you source your Lego directly from S@H and now you want to
sell it off to make some money? I myself am not all that interested in buying
stuff from BL just to increase my FB. I realize that I could easily place 100
x $10 orders to "stock my store" and then have a FB of 100, but then I'd have
put out $1000 for stuff I'm not that interested in selling. There are a lot
of parts/elements sellers on here (more than sets sellers, it seems) but what
about the person who just collects full sets? Buying full sets from other BL
members can become expensive.
For example, the exchange rate from Canada to the USA is about par, but the S@H
pricing is about 30%. I usually order from USA S@H at their better prices, when
there are double VIP points, and free shipping. I have my stuff sent to the
USA, and pick it up when I can get it back tax free. I then can resell to Canadians
(not I don't bother selling internationally) at a price advantage and make some
money. The items I target are modular buildings and trains, which, in my opinion
can only increase in value over time.
By your statement of "only a feedback of 4" I think you may be targeting me,
even though you inserted the "not meaning to offend and apologise in advance
should I do so". I decided to sell on BL to recoup the costs associated with
losing some money. I thought the best way was to buy items I am also interested
in, so that should I not be able to sell them, I can always just use them.
Right now there is absolutely NOTHING on BL for a seller to go through to open
a store and sell. This is unacceptable in my opinion. Forcing a seller to buy
from other BL members first and build up a heavy FB rating in order to setup
shop is worse than requiring a credit card, in my opinion.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stone_Goblin | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 10:06 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Building a reputation takes some time, but if you're a good seller it's vastly
easier to do than to try defrauding people right out of the gate. Learning from
mistakes is tuition itself in life. Buyers will need to learn in their own time
about risk and seller reputation.
BrickLink has a good reputation on the whole... but if you want to improve upon
that, start a certification club like I suggested.
Binding people to more restrictive financial mechanisms in order to satisfy a
personal concern over the security of transactions is overbearing IMO.
John @ LibertyBRICK
In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | In Suggestions, whooshka82 writes:
| | In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
|
It's a NO from me, if a fraudster can get around the paypal verification and
addresses etc and be paying the BL fees surely they will get around the credit
card verification as well.
To sell, be it online or a traditional shop - possibly even more important online,
a store needs to build a reputation. On BL feedback is the obvious way for building
a reputation shared with all, though regular and valuable contributions in chat
or on the forum would not go unnoticed.
TBH (and truthfully not meaning to offend and apologise in advance should I do
so) this concept sounds like a plan from someone desperate to sell and get around
the nervousness buyers including myself treat a store with only feedback of 4.
Build a reputation buy from other stores to stock your own to build feeback
numbers possibly, and the customers will come.
|
I realize that a fraudster can get around verifications, but many can't. This
would eliminate the ones who can't get around the verification. I also understand
that you need to build a reputation, but what happens when you have accumulated
a bunch of Lego, or you source your Lego directly from S@H and now you want to
sell it off to make some money? I myself am not all that interested in buying
stuff from BL just to increase my FB. I realize that I could easily place 100
x $10 orders to "stock my store" and then have a FB of 100, but then I'd have
put out $1000 for stuff I'm not that interested in selling. There are a lot
of parts/elements sellers on here (more than sets sellers, it seems) but what
about the person who just collects full sets? Buying full sets from other BL
members can become expensive.
For example, the exchange rate from Canada to the USA is about par, but the S@H
pricing is about 30%. I usually order from USA S@H at their better prices, when
there are double VIP points, and free shipping. I have my stuff sent to the
USA, and pick it up when I can get it back tax free. I then can resell to Canadians
(not I don't bother selling internationally) at a price advantage and make some
money. The items I target are modular buildings and trains, which, in my opinion
can only increase in value over time.
By your statement of "only a feedback of 4" I think you may be targeting me,
even though you inserted the "not meaning to offend and apologise in advance
should I do so". I decided to sell on BL to recoup the costs associated with
losing some money. I thought the best way was to buy items I am also interested
in, so that should I not be able to sell them, I can always just use them.
Right now there is absolutely NOTHING on BL for a seller to go through to open
a store and sell. This is unacceptable in my opinion. Forcing a seller to buy
from other BL members first and build up a heavy FB rating in order to setup
shop is worse than requiring a credit card, in my opinion.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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| | | | | Author: | LEGOMASTER | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 09:23 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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I vote 'NO'.
I can see privacy and legal problems happening.
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| | | | | Author: | MikeS | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 09:25 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I'd have to vote "No".
You know when you see the same issues over and over, year after year, you are
starting to become a bit of an "old timer" (joined in 2001). This is one of
those issues that always comes around.
I believe that one of the arguments against this is that Admin does NOT want
to get into the Credit Card business, or be responsible for verifying peoples
information. They offer this venue for us, and in return they get a tiny commission
of sales for use of their system.
There will ALWAYS be scammers that will find a way around ANY system or check.
There is nothing you can do if a good seller or buyer decides to "go bad".
It's a risk everyone takes.
People just need to use common sense. Don't buy the $800 classic set for $200
from the new 0FB buyer! How many times to people NOT listen to the ".. if it
looks too good to be true.." advice.
I'm sure Admin has enough issues to deal with - without doing background checks,
running credit cards, etc.
Police ourselves and use your brains!
MikeS
BRICKMART
In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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| | | | | Author: | bb94303 | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 09:29 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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NO what are you guys doing to bricklink
PLEASE leave the running of the website to the people that do
and be greatful there is a bricklink
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| | | | | Author: | dwarunek | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 09:34 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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NO!
If you are not a legit seller the people of BL will find out soon enough and
come after you pitch forks...
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| | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 09:38 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| No, not as required. If anything, it could be voluntarily like an additional
status for 'verified seller' or something.
In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 12:48 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | No, not as required. If anything, it could be voluntarily like an additional
status for 'verified seller' or something.
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The next suggestion would be:
"Please, add a search filter to exclude all non-verified stores".
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In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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| | | | | | | Author: | beelzibus | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 18:14 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | No, not as required. If anything, it could be voluntarily like an additional
status for 'verified seller' or something.
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However there are likely to be some sellers with good established reputations,
but who don't have credit cards, thereby limiting their entry into any 'verified
seller' system.
I vote NO for various reasons.
Not required, plus it puts those without a CC at a disadvantage. Also the scammers
will find ways around it.
I believe very much in caveat emptor. Buyer beware. Gullible people fall for
scams.
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| | | | | Author: | wyldkat1976 | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 11:43 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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Isn't the genuine character of both buyer and seller usually proven by the members
feedback. Members with good feedback are usually genuine and honest, and it is
easy enough for a cautious member to check this feedback before buying from a
store, and then making their own decision based on this information. The crooked
members tend to stick out like sore thumb through the feedback system. If you
start implementing the need for credit card verification then it is discriminating
towards anyone who doesn't hold one or believe in credit, so has never applied
for one.
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| | | | | Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 12:07 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| No. I have a hobby. Not a business. One of the things I greatly appreciate about
Bricklink is the simplicity relative to other sites. Please keep this a simple
arrangement. I am always dubious about suggestions that Bricklink Admins do much
more than arrange a place where buyers and sellers can meet to conduct business.
I will say that as a buyer, I have not had a single negative experience here
on Bricklink. This is a safe place for buyers, and there is also good support
for sellers.
In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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| | | | | Author: | Reki_Lobsheek | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 18:47 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| very undemocratic suggestion IMO, so I voted "no"
I realise in the US a credit card might be as mundane as a normal bank acocunt,
but in Europe a lot of people don't own a credit card (because we simply don't
really have much use for it except for putting ourselves in trouble with debts
piling up  ) and it seems plain wrong to me that a seller here would have to
own one to be able to sell here.
It would be the death of Bricklink as we know it*.
Reki
* I'm well aware that this is an exaggeration
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| | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 18:55 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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Actually, if you add enough hoops to jump through people will get tired of jumping.
John P
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| | | | | Author: | bb133961 | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 19:03 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Yup, same thing with everyone else, i vote no.
Many people dont have credit cards and the privacy issue is bad...
Ian
In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Lonely_Brick_OH | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 19:06 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, bossk9 writes:
| | Yup, same thing with everyone else, i vote no.
Many people dont have credit cards and the privacy issue is bad...
Ian
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How about a registered paypal account?
I think the credit card idea would not work, but at least a registered paypal
account would confirm they at least exist!
Hate to say it, but BL is prime for fraud!
I would hate to prove it with a 0 feedback account, but I bet I could without
anyone knowing what hit them.
Thanks for letting me have input!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 19:20 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, BigBrickDaddy writes:
| | In Suggestions, bossk9 writes:
| | Yup, same thing with everyone else, i vote no.
Many people dont have credit cards and the privacy issue is bad...
Ian
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How about a registered paypal account?
I think the credit card idea would not work, but at least a registered paypal
account would confirm they at least exist!
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Anyone can create a paypalaccount.
How many payments do you receive with names/adresses not matching the order?
| | Hate to say it, but BL is prime for fraud!
I would hate to prove it with a 0 feedback account, but I bet I could without
anyone knowing what hit them.
Thanks for letting me have input!
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| | | | | Author: | lmeyer | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2011 20:56 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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No. System works just fine the way it is.
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| | | | | Author: | Rolf | | Posted: | Jan 29, 2011 01:43 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, locutis writes:
| | BrickLink should setup a system where a seller would need to have a credit card
to sell on BL, and BL charges the seller a small amount (say $5) to setup the
store, and activate it, and verify the seller's information that is on BL against
the credit card.
The $5 would offset any costs associated with checking names/addresses. Once
BL has a card # and a charge on it, they can verify the name and address to the
card, and they know that they are dealing with a real person, at a real address.
Or, maybe make this an option, and have a store icon that shows that the seller
is verified.
Or, perhaps make this a requirement only if the seller wishes to sell high value
products, or lots of items valued at a high value.
I would gladly do this for my store, to show that I'm legit and serious about
selling.
Locutis
Resistance is futile.
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Sorry but no. Not everyone have a credit card. I didn't till only couple years
ago, and I'm 35 years old.
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| | | | | Author: | chromeking71 | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2021 01:16 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| This is a horrible idea. This site has been hacked a few times in the past under
previous ownership. Why make this site a target with worthwhile incentive...a
trove of credit card info with matching names and addresses. Nothing I've
personally seen or heard here has led me to believe that Lego has significantly
improved security here. Hopefully I'm wrong about this.
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2021 01:39 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, chromeking71 writes:
| | This is a horrible idea. This site has been hacked a few times in the past under
previous ownership. Why make this site a target with worthwhile incentive...a
trove of credit card info with matching names and addresses. Nothing I've
personally seen or heard here has led me to believe that Lego has significantly
improved security here. Hopefully I'm wrong about this.
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This topic is 10 years old...
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Grego | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2021 02:28 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, randyipp writes:
| | In Suggestions, chromeking71 writes:
| | This is a horrible idea. This site has been hacked a few times in the past under
previous ownership. Why make this site a target with worthwhile incentive...a
trove of credit card info with matching names and addresses. Nothing I've
personally seen or heard here has led me to believe that Lego has significantly
improved security here. Hopefully I'm wrong about this.
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This topic is 10 years old...
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10 Yearolds shouldn't be using Credit Cards
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2021 02:39 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, randyipp writes:
| | In Suggestions, chromeking71 writes:
| | This is a horrible idea. This site has been hacked a few times in the past under
previous ownership. Why make this site a target with worthwhile incentive...a
trove of credit card info with matching names and addresses. Nothing I've
personally seen or heard here has led me to believe that Lego has significantly
improved security here. Hopefully I'm wrong about this.
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This topic is 10 years old...
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Who doesn't enjoy a long conversation every now and then?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 3, 2021 04:47 | | Subject: | Re: Credit Card required to sell on BrickLink | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Suggestions, randyipp writes:
| | In Suggestions, chromeking71 writes:
| | This is a horrible idea. This site has been hacked a few times in the past under
previous ownership. Why make this site a target with worthwhile incentive...a
trove of credit card info with matching names and addresses. Nothing I've
personally seen or heard here has led me to believe that Lego has significantly
improved security here. Hopefully I'm wrong about this.
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This topic is 10 years old...
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Who doesn't enjoy a long conversation every now and then?
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I like how the reply points out it's a bad suggestion by referring to events
that happened after the suggestion was made  Hard to argue with someone who's
seen the future
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